Soulfist is a pretty challenging class to play optimally and the two builds require different skillsets to pilot so when I have the resources I'll definitely set-up a robust spirit gearset for fun. But until then I enjoy dashing around and managing buffs/energy. iv2b • 1 yr. ago.Coming into lost ark this is the class i wanted to play the most. She didn’t disappoint one bit and exceeds my expectations. DPS is definitely lower than the broken classes like sorc and db, but I main shadowhunter so it’s not really that much difference.Berserker is probably the best solo class. Tanky but can do a good bit of damage. But, to be honest, they are all good at solo. Play what you want without worrying about who is better. If you don't have a ton of time to play, play what you think is fun. SashimiDemon.Weppoz •. Additional comment actions. Gunslinger is just a class with a higher skill cap that’s why not so good gunslinger seem to be bad directly. As a gunslinger you get punished harder for mistakes than other classes. Has nothing to do with „all gunslingers beeing bad“. stone-of-glass •. Additional comment actions.C Tier. The Arcana or Arcanist class is a mage class that deals in dark magic arts. They have a lot of RNG mechanics in their skills, which can be fun sometimes but also frustrating when trying to ...First and foremost, it’s important to understand that the tier-list we’ve put together below is going to cover Lost Ark’s NA and EU regions that are set to launch on February 11, 2022 (or February 8 if you bought a Founder’s Pack). And of course, you shouldn’t forget that all classes and subclasses in Lost Ark are end-game viable.Artillerist isn't really that ranged. I play close/mid. Very high stagger and destruction. Need good knowledge of mechanics due to attack delays. But I've played all the classes and I have the most fun playing the Artillerist. It is slow to level up and the class doesn't get fluid till t3.For story, start with a dps class. It's still doable with a support but it goes through much faster if you have a dps that has large aoes or that has higher movement speed/skills. You can easily switch to a more preferred class once you reach North vern, where you unlock knowledge transfer. Knowledge transfer allows you to skip the story to ... Tai scrapper, Mayhem zerker, scouter, reflux sorc, but for me it's the DI Shadowhunter by far in terms of ease, price and fun. Super strong class early/mid t3 but starts falling off after that. 4. Hatchid. Berserker. • 22 days ago. Wouldn't say mayhem is easy.From what i have seen in the beta these Will be my classes so far. Zerker: because i love the PvE and PvP (non swirl, swirl is boring) Style of this class, high CC, high dmg, longer animations, high CDs, every skill counts but in zerker even more. High numbers with CD +animations feels balanced, but also melee on top.Most fun warrior class : r/lostarkgame. Out of paladin, berserker, and gunlancer who is the most fun in your opinion. 0. 14 comments. Best. Add a Comment. that is a toughie. Depends on what you find the most fun. Paladin has some pretty good magical explosions with a mix of light and dark magic filling the screen. Honestly I already have like 3 classes on top of my head that I will potential choose from but non the less I always like to read a good discussion about tiers lists. If you guys could throw here your thoughts about the current state of each class on the different playmodes: Group PvP: Solo PvP: Solo PvE: Group PvE: If you want to open any ...Scouter - Transformation class with a static rotation after, looks cool but not complicated. Reaper - Bounce across the entire screen and look cool or kill yourself, damage feel meh for effort. Summoner- Solid class, both builds very strong, one piano with pets, one sort of like igniter.What is the most FUN class? Hey guys im curious what do you think is the most FUN class to play? I dont care about damage or how strong a class is this is purely about FUN. Please take the poll, and if you are curious too upvote it so more people see it. https://poll-maker.com/poll4201033x45164A5E-132 My 2 cents. You can say most classes are brain dead unless you’re speaking about burst damage classes or “build meter and spend” which normally don’t allow low cooldowns. Otherwise OP. Tai Scrapper has had a lot of popularity lately as it has good DPS, low cooldowns, high mobility, and solid counter.Short answer: Pick what you like. there is no useless or hated class in the game. Anything you pick you will be able to play any content the game offers. No one is going to reject you in a party just because of your class. Normally people are looking for lets say a Support in their group of 3 DPS! Hope you get the point!My favourite class is arcanist, but it's not really a good choice for a new player. Very investment heavy and takes quite a bit of practice to pilot it. Personally, I'd suggest picking a DPS class as your first for the story, getting to Punika and then boosting a support with the Punika pass. The Space Bar is faster, the skill animations arent nearly as clunky. I'm still having fun playing the Arti, but you can definitely feel the difference, lol. I was gonna make a blade next. I got one, level 37 i think or something, but compared to my sorcerer, i don't know, feels less "fun". Blue gunlancer! what is in your opinion the most responsive class? i play a gunslinger, which feels pretty clunky from time to time with the weapon switching. i also play a gunlancer which i really like but is slow af. now i want to try a class which feels really responsive, fast, little downtimes, not many charging skills etc. i think you get the pictureFor me, Destroyer and Eso striker, and planning on making EO soulfist or gunlancer to see who I enjoy the most. Related Topics Lost Ark MMORPG Hack and slash Role-playing video game MMO Action game GamingAs someone who has a lot of characters and does friends' raids for them and have played most classes. Peace maker gunslinger is the most fun for me since it gives a lot of options for different situations, and learning skill rotations for each situation is hard to master but fun to play. FlowerpotxD • 5 mo. ago.The Space Bar is faster, the skill animations arent nearly as clunky. I'm still having fun playing the Arti, but you can definitely feel the difference, lol. I was gonna make a blade next. I got one, level 37 i think or something, but compared to my sorcerer, i don't know, feels less "fun". Blue gunlancer!My 2 cents. You can say most classes are brain dead unless you’re speaking about burst damage classes or “build meter and spend” which normally don’t allow low cooldowns. Otherwise OP. Tai Scrapper has had a lot of popularity lately as it has good DPS, low cooldowns, high mobility, and solid counter.My favourite class is arcanist, but it's not really a good choice for a new player. Very investment heavy and takes quite a bit of practice to pilot it. Personally, I'd suggest picking a DPS class as your first for the story, getting to Punika and then boosting a support with the Punika pass. Paladin is the most fun to progress. But half of lost ark player base jsut want to get bussed anyway so they don't care. There's definitely an issue with how paladins are generally perceived. No argument that it's an easy class to play, because it's straightforward but that does't necessarily make it boring.Sorc and shadow hunter were amazing feeling when I tried in the RU servers. Like the screen just blows up playing sorc. Blade was really fun going in and out of combat. Gunlancer was fun being able to just face tank with your shield up and still do good damage and have cool abilities. Paladin has a lot of cool looking aoes Feb 5, 2022 · Players may often feel like they are in need of more spell quick-slots as they have to read enemy cues and apply the right response to keep their team alive. But, Bard is still the most popular class by far and the best support class in Lost Ark. Bard is for players who want to participate in high-level content as soon as possible without ... Most fun class to play? Hey all. Curious what you think is the most fun class, either for leveling or end game content. I currently have a lvl 49 bard, a 35ish Gunlancer, and a 22ish Shadowhunter. Obviously answers will depend on your preferred play styles. 6 Related Topics Destroyer - Imagine putting all your eggs in one basket. Pro: great stats all around. Con: prone to missing important skills. Berserker - Auto-click simulator. Pro: best identity & 2nd best awakening. Con: long cooldowns & mana issue. Holy Knight - White bread of classes. Pro: can support while doing decent damage.fact is lost ark has the best combat system of all MMOs. end of story. playing WoW or FF14 after playing lost ark for a while is basically impossible cos you die of boredom. but to each their own. seems like you are having some mental issues tho if you stick around a sub for something you hate just to try and make others miserable.Singhka1996. Shadowhunter. •. I'm also Shadowhunter main, I enjoy Taijutsu scrapper and Paladin (not the same playstyle, but closer than bard). I don't really enjoy my bard, db, and sharpshooter, but they are fine in comparison to the gunslinger and zerker that I deleted lol. As far as cheap, consensus is that SH, Scouter (which obv isnt out ... In kr, striker is pure dps that quite good damage. But striker needs some several things like runes, speicality, etc. Btw i think if you feel good at striker, it is good for you to pick striker. Striker have only 2 high damage jewels so you feel good and save your money. He will strong after relic tier and 33333.Don’t consider yourself a nolifer. Lost ark doesn’t really have a way to test class in the mid tier 3 content. The class testing is bad and the one in the training area too. I used up all 9 of my KT and I’m still trying to find my “perfect” roster. Idc about class popularity I want to have fun while playing my classes.What is the most FUN class? Hey guys im curious what do you think is the most FUN class to play? I dont care about damage or how strong a class is this is purely about FUN. Please take the poll, and if you are curious too upvote it so more people see it. https://poll-maker.com/poll4201033x45164A5E-132 View community ranking In the Top 1% of largest communities on Reddit summoner, arcana, scouter, artist - which class is the best/most fun pvp and pve wise? As per topic: summoner, arcana, scouter, artist - which class is the best/most fun pvp and pve wise?Most fun class in Lost Ark? Hey, been trying EU LA for a week and lvled artillerist to 40 and paladin, gunlancer and bard to 30. Tried deathblade and some other dps but pure dps just doesnt suit me. Honestly even artillerist doesnt make it for me anymore. What class is for u most fun? For me, Destroyer and Eso striker, and planning on making EO soulfist or gunlancer to see who I enjoy the most. Related Topics Lost Ark MMORPG Hack and slash Role-playing video game MMO Action game GamingView community ranking In the Top 1% of largest communities on Reddit Opinions on most fun and also "best" class to solo guardian raids? Hello all, I'd like to make an alt focused on trying to solo my way through all of the guardian raids as I proceed through the tiers.Scouter - Transformation class with a static rotation after, looks cool but not complicated. Reaper - Bounce across the entire screen and look cool or kill yourself, damage feel meh for effort. Summoner- Solid class, both builds very strong, one piano with pets, one sort of like igniter. Feb 5, 2022 · Players may often feel like they are in need of more spell quick-slots as they have to read enemy cues and apply the right response to keep their team alive. But, Bard is still the most popular class by far and the best support class in Lost Ark. Bard is for players who want to participate in high-level content as soon as possible without ... So yeah Demonic will probably be the least popular from the ones you picked (but still middle of the pack) as for most popular overall i would say Sorceress (very overhyped for NA/EU launch and classic mage dps design), Blade, Gunslinger, Berserker and Bard. 3. Washi81 • 2 yr. ago.What is the most FUN class? Hey guys im curious what do you think is the most FUN class to play? I dont care about damage or how strong a class is this is purely about FUN. Please take the poll, and if you are curious too upvote it so more people see it. https://poll-maker.com/poll4201033x45164A5E-132 Tai scrapper, Mayhem zerker, scouter, reflux sorc, but for me it's the DI Shadowhunter by far in terms of ease, price and fun. Super strong class early/mid t3 but starts falling off after that. 4. Hatchid. Berserker. • 22 days ago. Wouldn't say mayhem is easy.what is in your opinion the most responsive class? i play a gunslinger, which feels pretty clunky from time to time with the weapon switching. i also play a gunlancer which i really like but is slow af. now i want to try a class which feels really responsive, fast, little downtimes, not many charging skills etc. i think you get the picture In kr, striker is pure dps that quite good damage. But striker needs some several things like runes, speicality, etc. Btw i think if you feel good at striker, it is good for you to pick striker. Striker have only 2 high damage jewels so you feel good and save your money. He will strong after relic tier and 33333. The Paladin class is basically a mix between a traditional fighter class and a mage class. In one hand, you have a trusty short sword that can be used for hacking away at enemies, and in its ...Feb 11, 2022 · The first major choice you will have to make in Lost Ark is what character class you want to play as.. The Massively Multiplayer Online Role-Playing Game (MMORPG) launches in the United States and ... I don't think there are any winrate stats publicly available, but soulfist is a good class in PvP in my opinion. It has really strong burst. When you're not in hype level 3 your damage isn't very good but you can focus on peeling for teammates until you have your burst back up. I have both and bard is way more involved. Pal can be played like a DPS class that also happens to support their allies without any input from the player whatsoever (well almost, you still want to aim Godsent Law under your friends' feet but that's more of an advanced tip). On the other hand, bard is designed to support their allies but needs ...For story, start with a dps class. It's still doable with a support but it goes through much faster if you have a dps that has large aoes or that has higher movement speed/skills. You can easily switch to a more preferred class once you reach North vern, where you unlock knowledge transfer. Knowledge transfer allows you to skip the story to ... Most fun warrior class : r/lostarkgame. Out of paladin, berserker, and gunlancer who is the most fun in your opinion. 0. 14 comments. Best. Add a Comment. that is a toughie. Depends on what you find the most fun. Paladin has some pretty good magical explosions with a mix of light and dark magic filling the screen.My current roster is RE DB, mayhem zerk, reflux sorcerer, DI SH and a support paladin. Although I have been enjoy playing my braindead crew so far, I would like to add something a bit more challenging also future proof. Which one would you say is most fun for you, in term of gameplay and mvping. Edit: assuming I am enough resource to fully gear. May 24, 2023 · Related: Lost Ark: Machinist Class Guide. It's possible to play through Lost Ark’s storyline as any of the character classes, as essentially they’re all ‘tank’ classes. While a few do have support roles built in, even they can be taken through the game’s main content alone. But not all classes are built equally well for solo play. Short answer: Pick what you like. there is no useless or hated class in the game. Anything you pick you will be able to play any content the game offers. No one is going to reject you in a party just because of your class. Normally people are looking for lets say a Support in their group of 3 DPS! Hope you get the point!Which class is more fun to play as one of the six main characters? My current roster is RE DB, mayhem zerk, reflux sorcerer, DI SH and a support paladin. Although I have been enjoy playing my braindead crew so far, I would like to add something a bit more challenging also future proof. Which one would you say is most fun for you, in term of ...We are the 1%. level 1. · 9 mo. ago. So the most popular class is the lowest tier one in terms of raid damage...:) Fun fact, people will reroll so damn fast. :D. level 2. · 9 mo. ago. id assume most people dont really care about pve including myself. Short answer: Pick what you like. there is no useless or hated class in the game. Anything you pick you will be able to play any content the game offers. No one is going to reject you in a party just because of your class. Normally people are looking for lets say a Support in their group of 3 DPS! Hope you get the point!This may be interesting reading to you. It's only 17k votes but may give you a general idea of how KOREAN players feel about each class and what classes they prefer to group with. TL;DR: Most preferred DPS classes: Gunlancer, Wardancer, Glavier, Destroyer Least preferred DPS classes: Striker, Demonic, Arcana, Summoner Chances are, you won't regret it. Anyhow as for beginner alts, Recommended : Sorc, zerk, artillerist, shadow hunter. Dont's : wardancer, gunlancer, soulfist, sharpshooter (situational), and supports (bard/pally) The ones I mentioned for "don't" are classes that either suck at lower tiers (soulfist/wardancer) or are a chore/pain to do dailies in ...As someone who has a lot of characters and does friends' raids for them and have played most classes. Peace maker gunslinger is the most fun for me since it gives a lot of options for different situations, and learning skill rotations for each situation is hard to master but fun to play. FlowerpotxD • 5 mo. ago. Which class is more fun to play as one of the six main characters? My current roster is RE DB, mayhem zerk, reflux sorcerer, DI SH and a support paladin. Although I have been enjoy playing my braindead crew so far, I would like to add something a bit more challenging also future proof. Which one would you say is most fun for you, in term of ...Blade and shadow are both fun and enjoyable classes that are decent in their own right and very satisfying to use your combos. Sorceress is there to nuke things from afar. Gunlancer is very tanky and a great balance in consideration of the warrior class. Scrapper is a well balanced class.It was an OP class where both dealers and supporters were possible, but it was nerfed 4 times in a row. Despite this, it is still very popular in endgame. Lost Ark's endgame is full of death. Therefore, the Gunlancer with the highest survivability (defense + stamina) is a very popular class in the party.Deathblade, shadow hunter, berserker, sorc are really fun to level, because they don't require you to think at all during the leveling phase, it's just a straight playstyle with eye-candy skills. Nice, that sounds right up my alley. Sorc looks super fun but I worry the experience may be too similar to artillerist.Chances are, you won't regret it. Anyhow as for beginner alts, Recommended : Sorc, zerk, artillerist, shadow hunter. Dont's : wardancer, gunlancer, soulfist, sharpshooter (situational), and supports (bard/pally) The ones I mentioned for "don't" are classes that either suck at lower tiers (soulfist/wardancer) or are a chore/pain to do dailies in ... We are the 1%. level 1. · 9 mo. ago. So the most popular class is the lowest tier one in terms of raid damage...:) Fun fact, people will reroll so damn fast. :D. level 2. · 9 mo. ago. id assume most people dont really care about pve including myself. Mar 13, 2023 · Lost Ark Tier List 2023: Expert Rankings for PvE and PvP. Our lost ark tier list for Lost Ark is structured based on extensive research and analysis, We have divided the classes into different tiers based on their strengths and suitability for PvE or PvP gameplay. The strongest classes are placed in the S tier, while the A tier consists of ... tarkoed. It is the opposite. Braindead class, and as you say just stand there and, nothing do nothing.. 90% of warlords (dunno why they fuck they call em gunlancers now) actually believe they are tanks, doesnt know a single mechanic for anything, they lack in all aspects. Fun class tho as any other in the game.Gunslinger can be another good choice, though you're squishy, you have plenty of mobility, and your range on snipe can help you get uptime on mechanics. Warlord/Gunlancer is easily the best solo class. I think this is a somewhat risky answer. There are a lot of disclaimers to make. Most fun class to play? Hey all. Curious what you think is the most fun class, either for leveling or end game content. I currently have a lvl 49 bard, a 35ish Gunlancer, and a 22ish Shadowhunter. Obviously answers will depend on your preferred play styles. 6 Related Topics In kr, striker is pure dps that quite good damage. But striker needs some several things like runes, speicality, etc. Btw i think if you feel good at striker, it is good for you to pick striker. Striker have only 2 high damage jewels so you feel good and save your money. He will strong after relic tier and 33333. Soulfist is a pretty challenging class to play optimally and the two builds require different skillsets to pilot so when I have the resources I'll definitely set-up a robust spirit gearset for fun. But until then I enjoy dashing around and managing buffs/energy. iv2b • 1 yr. ago.Rank your classes that are most fun to play, no matter if is good on dps or support, just FUN. my personal favorites are: 1 - Berserker. 2- Phantom lancer.An important thing to remember is that gunlancer scales extremely well with engravings, especially blue lancer - since your shield is basically always up (if you have specialization & time your shout right) a lot of the negatives to engravings are basically negligible. Gunlancer is a dps class just like the rest.We are the 1%. level 1. · 9 mo. ago. So the most popular class is the lowest tier one in terms of raid damage...:) Fun fact, people will reroll so damn fast. :D. level 2. · 9 mo. ago. id assume most people dont really care about pve including myself.what is in your opinion the most responsive class? i play a gunslinger, which feels pretty clunky from time to time with the weapon switching. i also play a gunlancer which i really like but is slow af. now i want to try a class which feels really responsive, fast, little downtimes, not many charging skills etc. i think you get the pictureGunslinger PM, Shock Scrapper, Eso Wardancer (4SP) Surge deathblade. EO soulfist. PM gs. So far these are my top 3 and I don't think anything is going to dethrone my db and sf for top 2. Going to try out drizzle aeromancer and full moon soul eater, both spec builds, once they release in the west. Gunslinger.Most fun: mostly shadow hunter, just so easy to land every ability, you can slap people in melee and in ranged and demon form is just icing on the cake you basically turn into a striker for a bit jumping around everywhere and doing massive damage , I’ve 3v1 whole teams before with demon form while both my teammates were fucking around in base ...Lost Ark Sorceress has all the things I want to see when I create a mage for an MMO: way too sexy outfits and and way too impressive spells :) I went for Reflux because when I started to game pre lv50 I would always forget to use igniter during boss fights which is a completely dumb point but lmao this was the best decision of my Lost Ark life. In Lost Ark, character development is important, but the most substantial area of progression comes from account progression. Be it card collections or collectable spread across the world, account ...1. Eoho • 1 yr. ago. So at least for gunlancer the class doesn't really feel fun till you get the actual abilities your class will use (level 30 and so on). The test a class function not really representative of many classes since it just gives you the base 8 abilities you get after going through the prologue. View community ranking In the Top 1% of largest communities on Reddit summoner, arcana, scouter, artist - which class is the best/most fun pvp and pve wise? As per topic: summoner, arcana, scouter, artist - which class is the best/most fun pvp and pve wise?Zerker. I'm main Gunslinger and have as alts a DB, Zerk, Shadowhunter, Sorc and waiting for the Lancemaster. And by far for me the most fun to play is the GS, i just love her mobility and stylish skills, just waiting for the Reaper that is my favorite class of all of them. Byebyeitsanamg. Deathblade 100%. fox38wolf.Tai scrapper, Mayhem zerker, scouter, reflux sorc, but for me it's the DI Shadowhunter by far in terms of ease, price and fun. Super strong class early/mid t3 but starts falling off after that. 4. Hatchid. Berserker. • 22 days ago. Wouldn't say mayhem is easy.Don’t consider yourself a nolifer. Lost ark doesn’t really have a way to test class in the mid tier 3 content. The class testing is bad and the one in the training area too. I used up all 9 of my KT and I’m still trying to find my “perfect” roster. Idc about class popularity I want to have fun while playing my classes.I don't think there are any winrate stats publicly available, but soulfist is a good class in PvP in my opinion. It has really strong burst. When you're not in hype level 3 your damage isn't very good but you can focus on peeling for teammates until you have your burst back up.
In kr, striker is pure dps that quite good damage. But striker needs some several things like runes, speicality, etc. Btw i think if you feel good at striker, it is good for you to pick striker. Striker have only 2 high damage jewels so you feel good and save your money. He will strong after relic tier and 33333.. John t fuller and associates new orleans
BigTroken • 1 yr. ago. Hi, the "best" classes are the most desired ones and can find any party they want: are supports (Paladin and Bard). Another desired class is Gunlancer because is a good dps, tanky af, and can shield+dispell debuff the party which is the most support oriented from dps classes.Scouter - Transformation class with a static rotation after, looks cool but not complicated. Reaper - Bounce across the entire screen and look cool or kill yourself, damage feel meh for effort. Summoner- Solid class, both builds very strong, one piano with pets, one sort of like igniter. Berserker is probably the best solo class. Tanky but can do a good bit of damage. But, to be honest, they are all good at solo. Play what you want without worrying about who is better. If you don't have a ton of time to play, play what you think is fun. SashimiDemon.In kr, striker is pure dps that quite good damage. But striker needs some several things like runes, speicality, etc. Btw i think if you feel good at striker, it is good for you to pick striker. Striker have only 2 high damage jewels so you feel good and save your money. He will strong after relic tier and 33333.As a Deadeye main (with a 1490 GS alt), I think it's one of the most fun classes in the game, the other being Gunslinger and I see why so many people would rather play Gunslinger. Gunslinger feels way more fluid, their skills look cooler, and the damage uptime is FAR easier on Gunslinger than Deadeye. Also, GS is very straightforward to play.Most fun: DI Shadowhunter - assassin class that doesn't get one shot, can zoom around, skills are cool with good sound fx. Good at kiting around bosses. Easy to play. Don't get why everyone says she's boring. Least fun: Igniter Sorc.We are the 1%. level 1. · 9 mo. ago. So the most popular class is the lowest tier one in terms of raid damage...:) Fun fact, people will reroll so damn fast. :D. level 2. · 9 mo. ago. id assume most people dont really care about pve including myself. Gunslinger can be another good choice, though you're squishy, you have plenty of mobility, and your range on snipe can help you get uptime on mechanics. Warlord/Gunlancer is easily the best solo class. I think this is a somewhat risky answer. There are a lot of disclaimers to make.BigTroken • 1 yr. ago. Hi, the "best" classes are the most desired ones and can find any party they want: are supports (Paladin and Bard). Another desired class is Gunlancer because is a good dps, tanky af, and can shield+dispell debuff the party which is the most support oriented from dps classes.In kr, striker is pure dps that quite good damage. But striker needs some several things like runes, speicality, etc. Btw i think if you feel good at striker, it is good for you to pick striker. Striker have only 2 high damage jewels so you feel good and save your money. He will strong after relic tier and 33333.The reasons to play it are the highish apm, high mobility, high stagger, high destruction, two built in class dashes, and general tankiness. It also has one of the best "flows" out of all the classes I have played. Kind of hard to describe, but when I started playing it I instantly fell in love with how it felt.It's quick, it's fun and well balanced. I like the blue skills and the way she moves around the battlefield, literally sweeping enemies away like a true Martial Artist. Compared to my GS main, feels more stable, relaxed and less work. Can't wait to clear more content with her and get an even better grasp of this class :)My favourite class is arcanist, but it's not really a good choice for a new player. Very investment heavy and takes quite a bit of practice to pilot it. Personally, I'd suggest picking a DPS class as your first for the story, getting to Punika and then boosting a support with the Punika pass..
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